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| Friday, November 9th Daily Discussion | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 8 2012, 02:35 PM (7,614 Views) | |
| Skye | Nov 8 2012, 02:35 PM Post #1 |
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Friday, November 9th Nicole is up on the stairs at the square Dan runs up the stairs after her and Nicole takes out the scalpel and tells him to get away Ej, Rafe, Brady, Jen and Abigail are there watching she says Go away and leave me alone please sonny at the coffee place T comes in with his date Audrey T says he wanted to introduce her to his boyfriend Will and him Sonny says we are not together anymore Will is helping out at the pub Gabi talks to him Will asks where Nick is she says he is upstairs he says why is he upstairs , oh never mind forget i asked she says could he not tell anyone about them she doesnt want rafe or anyone butting it, they are happy found the person she is meant to be with Kristen says i want something that you will never be able to give me he says you are finally admitting it my wife was right what you want is me she says i dont want your love i want your forgiveness dan says lets talk about what happened she says why so you all can scream and yell at me, if you all didnt hate me before,, you hate me now he says i dont hate you she says yes you do, why are you all here , you want to see me pay so lets do it, lets get it over with i will end it right here right now i will do it she put the scalpel up to her throat john says you want my forgiveness? she says yeah is it that shocking i told you i had years in therapy and i know the hell i put you and marlena through i want to put the past in the past i need to make amends he says im not sure thats possible she says i know and all the work i put in to being a better person and to be the person i was when you first met me ,i know it might be a lost cause it kind of breaks my heart dan says no no dont do it please no one here wants you to hurt yourself she says i would rather be with my baby both my babies dan says i know you are grieving but you do not want to hurt yourself you have so much to live for she says like what you cant answer me cause there is nothing i lost everything, my baby and now i have lost you and it hurts so much i want the pain to go away i need it to go away T tells sonny he is sorry didnt know him and Will broke up he wants to know what happened i told Audrey i helped you guys get together and now she wants me to fix things she thinks im a nice considerate helpful person and me having gay friends means im comfortable with my masculinity sonny says so you are using me to impress her T says a little ,are you guys going to get back together Will tells gabi about his dad and sonny she says its not outrageous for you to want to know where your partner has been and who he has been with meet face to face and clear this up he says whats the point he told me to get out that it was over she says thats not what you told me i think you are making a big mistake Kristen says how could i have known you would be here its November and you made me miss the last ferry he says what are you doing here she says i have special memories of this place and Salem not so much i needed to clear my head i started hoping then why i turn a corner and you would be there maybe it was a sign from God that we were supposed to work things out, not romantically he says think we could be friends she says guess im not that naive im not the same woman that locked marlena in that room and tried to pass off another child as your own you are john black hired assassin stefanos pawn are you the same man you were all those years ago he says no im not she says because of the love of a good woman he says yes because of marlena she says i found love too while i was gone i learned to love myself i found me the person that helped kids that no on else cared for the person who coached little league he says the person i fell in love with Nicole says you dont know what its like to have a life growing inside and to love that child with all your heart he becomes a part of you and before you get a chance to hold him he is taken from you forever none of you know how that feels dan says im sorry she says when i lost my daughter i didnt think i could feel anymore pain but i was wrong and now i know my dreams will never come true this was my only chance to hold onto you and i know what i did was wrong jen has 2 beautiful children and she had a wonderful marriage and she just threw you away when she saw you caring for me and my baby and all of a sudden she couldnt let you go i thought if i could have the one thing i wanted the most in this world a little baby, if i couldnt have that at least i could have you i lied so i could keep the 1 last great thing in my life but i lost you anyway didnt I i cant take it anymore i cant she put the scalpel up to her throat dan says i am right here look at me you are not alone all these people here care about you she says no, they are here for the show he says i care about you, im right here she says but not the way i need you we are not leaving are we this is over between us isnt it she screams isnt it she has the scalpel up to her throat Sonny says i wouldnt count on things working out between Will and me he can go back and tell her he has done his part supporting the gays T goes over to Audrey she says it didnt go so well T says he said its over she says but he doesnt want it to be otherwise he wouldnt look so sad gabi tells Will to pick up the phone and call Sonny think about it Will says ok Kristen says thats not what i meant im not asking you to love me again he says you are just hinting that it could be possible she says no i understand that you belong with marlena i always knew that even when we were happy part of you always wanted to be with her he says i never meant to hurt you she says i never meant to hurt you i was so jealous and afraid of what my life would be like without you but i found out i was ok i survived he says if thats true im happy for you she says getting over you was the hardest thing i ever had to do but i did it,im not asking you to forgive because i love you now its because i did love you and after everything we went through ,it would mean so much to me dan says nicole ,i know you have been through more than anyone has to bear but i promise to be by your side as you get better and you will get better drop the scalpel and come to me she says i love you more than you will ever know she looks at the scalpel and drops it to the ground then she tries to climb over the railing but rafe gets her from behind and dan grabs her from the front they both hold onto her she cries why didnt you let me go why Nicole is now in the hospital Cameron says we are going to keep you here overnight rafe comes in to talk to her ready to take your statement she says ok he says i suggest wait till your lawyer is present she says no she wants to get it over with Abi and Jen are in a waiting room Abi says im glad Nicole didnt take the easy way out now she has to pay jen says dont feel that way Brady comes in wants to talk to jen abi leaves them he says tonight was intense but i couldnt let you leave without telling you i owe you a huge apology rafe sits beside nicole he says on oct 8 you came here for an appointment she says yes and her regular Ob Dr. Knapp had an emergency i saw Dr sedwick she couldnt find the babys heartbeat so she did an ultrasound and then she told me my baby was dead i asked her why she said sometimes we just dont know i didnt do anything wrong it wasnt my fault but whos fault is it i went to tell dan the truth but he was with jen i thought i cant lose him too Ej and Dan are in the waiting room Ej is sitting down reading papers Dan says there was nothing any doctor could have done its not jens fault, or nicoles fault no ones Ej says so the child just wasnt meant to live, is that what you are telling me Dan says i understand if you want to speak to another doctor to confirm my findings EJ says oh yeah i will be talking to another doctor but i suspect he will only confirm what you just told me dan says i just hope this will give you a little peace of mind of what happened that night Ej rubs his forehead and Dan takes the papers from him and says he will have a copy made for him EJ says peace of mind i have no peace of mind if that child was born i would have never known anyway because you tried to convince me that another man was his father you would have done everything in your power to make sure that i had no legal rights to my son whats so ever dan says i thought you said EJ says what, that i was going to let everything go? That it didnt matter it matters when i thought jen was responsible for my sons death she was going to get what she deserved i suppose i dont have to worry about that if you think im just going to forgive and forget you have another think coming what you and nicole and rafe did to deceive me was wrong and we are going to settle that right here nic says i remember when i lost my baby before i kept thinking there has got to be something to stop the ache so i went out and got myself another baby then i lost sydney i lost my mother i lost Ej and i know i havent lived a blameless life but how much can one person pay i lost my baby and there was only one thing left for me to do jen was trying to come between me and dan for weeks and i thought if he knew the baby was gone that he would leave me and i would be left with nothing at all i snapped i wanted her to hurt as much as i was hurting we fought i grabbed her and she pulled away ,i lost my balance i fell it happened that fast brady saw it he came over and asked if the baby was ok and i knew what i had to do if i wanted to keep Daniel the computers were down that day and Dr. Sedwick had left the country so there was no record of me being here and everyone who saw me fall they didnt know the baby i was carrying inside me was already dead T and audrey go to the pub and talk to Will T says they saw sonny and he looked really down and he should call him he looked bummed that you havent called him Audrey says her brother is gay and his friends treated him bad when he came out Will says im glad you found T he is a great guy she says good luck i hope things work out for you guys John says if you want me to say i cared about you too you know that i did but when you started hurting people i loved she says i understand i knew coming back here would be hard, i guess i was looking for closure marlena never really liked me let alone loved me i didnt expect her to accept my olive branch but you because of everything we meant to each other at least what you meant to me i cant stand it that you hate me she sits on the couch he says im going to find some blankets i have a feeling its going to be a cold night he puts his jacket by her she puts it over her shoulders and smells it Dan says EJ i completely own my part in helping Nicole switch the paternity test so its on me i am prepared to accept the full consequences Ej says do you understand what that means i am not talking about you losing your career , i could send you to jail and no one would really blame me for pressing charges but to ruin you that will give me great satisfaction gabi goes to see Sonny they talk about the Halloween party he says he could barley get Nick to talk to him she flashbacks to nick telling her he thinks the gay lifestyle is wrong she says nick is just shy when he gets to know you and Will better we will hang out more sonny say sguess you didnt hear she says i heard Will feels bad about what happened he says he isnt talking to me she says maybe he needs time he gets a call says its Will Brady says the things i said were harsh and they were way off base i should have known better hope we will be good again jen says we are good now dan says you do what ever you feel you need to do Ej says well im not going to forgive and forget but i wont press charges against you on this occasion dan says why not EJ says a long time ago i came in here and you saved my life and when my son was very ill im grateful for what you did but dont cross me again dan nods his head rafe tells nciole to get some rest she says sometimes i think its my fault the baby died maybe lying to Ej and keeping him from his child and asking you and dan to betray everything you believe in maybe god thought my baby was better off dead than to have a mother like me maybe he is punishing me for my sins he says god doesnt work that way she says thats why we have a legal system right whats going to happen to me he says i dont know she cries again Ej looks in at Nicole she sees him he smiles sadly and leaves she cries some more Will says hey Sonny says whats going on Will says nothing im sorry for calling so late wasnt sure if you wanted to take my call Sonny says i will always take your calls Will says i thought maybe we could meet in person and talk about it sonny says how about tomorrow Will says ok c-ya then Kristen goes to sleep with johns coat over her he comes back with blankets says we got lucky he puts a blanket over her then he gets one and puts over his shoulders and sits on the couch rafe, dan, brady, abi and jen out by the nurses station Brady says how is she doing dan says physically she is strong emotionally , it will take a lot time brady says she is going to get the help she needs though? what going to happen to her rafe says she knows her lies led to jennifers false arrest at the tax payers expense she is going to be facing some serious charges They show Nicole in the bed |
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| The Room Stops | Nov 8 2012, 02:45 PM Post #2 |
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"marlena never really liked me let alone loved me" Uh, this crap. If you're going to do a story based on history, at least get the history right. Marlena was one of Kristen's main champions for crying out loud. Marlena was John's best friend and John cared about Kritter, so Marlena cared. |
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| LonePirate | Nov 8 2012, 02:54 PM Post #3 |
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The writers and executives are in for a rude awakening if they think this clusterfuck will suddenly cause me to hate Nicole and like Jennifer. That will not be happening. |
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| monie1973 | Nov 8 2012, 02:56 PM Post #4 |
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Can't wait to see Will and Sonny have missed them all week. |
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| NikiLani | Nov 8 2012, 03:06 PM Post #5 |
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They are making it impossible for me to hate Nicole. Every day that passes the amount of sh*t they keep piling on her makes me love her all the more. |
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| jaygal | Nov 8 2012, 03:07 PM Post #6 |
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I have some new found love for Rafe. :wub2: I'm sure it won't last, presently it's here. Will :rolleyes: Sonny this could have been your chance to find Brian. I want to sing Tomorrow to Nicole and Roses to those fools who were looking at her like their stuff don't stink! |
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| esp13 | Nov 8 2012, 03:08 PM Post #7 |
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I don't think anybody is supposed to hate Nicole. The writing has been hugely sympathetic all along and particularly in this episode. |
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| bomber | Nov 8 2012, 03:14 PM Post #8 |
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Now even E.J is on the "Dan saved my life" bandwagon. Take a ticket and get in line. :puke: |
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| Dreamer | Nov 8 2012, 03:18 PM Post #9 |
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Gone, But Not Forgotten!
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I always loved AZ's acting and liked Nicole, now I love Nicole. She did really well in her seens today as desperate woman and the edge of the, ready to take her own like. I hated that she focuses on losing Daniel and telling him how much she loved him.. I could have passed on those lines, but the rest was awesome. I liked how TPTB made her retell her story to Rafe in her statement.... about Jen & Dan and losing her 1st baby & Sydney. AZ was great! Her crying at the end, top notch.... Nothing buy my sympathy here. |
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| The Room Stops | Nov 8 2012, 03:20 PM Post #10 |
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Marlena saved your life once too, buddy. You wanna give her a big fat golden star? |
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| nolagirl | Nov 8 2012, 03:27 PM Post #11 |
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Abby is an asshole, no longer anythng to me but a BITCH Jennifer the annointed one is again a saint. Dan is still a jackass who again drove another woman to insanity for his glow stick Rafe have lost respect for him for even considering charges EJ - no words, absolutely no words Brady - cares more about apologizing to Jennifer the saint than checking on his supposed friend Nicole only one who deserves sympathy first for the storyline and secondly for the writers making it like she schemed this ending instead of it being because of her having a breakdown. Tom/Sell spell utter character destruction. :flipoff: Edited by nolagirl, Nov 8 2012, 03:29 PM.
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| bettysue113098 | Nov 8 2012, 03:29 PM Post #12 |
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I AM NOT A LOVEWR OF THE CHARACTER OF NICOLE AT ALL. SHE IS ALWAYS TRYING ALL THESE TRICKS TO TRAP SOME GUY. IT MAY BE FROM HER PAST BUT EVERYTHING IN HER LIFE IS SO NICOLE MO. SHE CAN NOT GET A GUY ON HER OWN WITHOUT THE LIES AND DECEIT THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT. LOOK AT HER NOW. SHE WENT AROUND CARRYING A DEAD BABY WHICH IS TOO SICK AND TWISTED FOR ME TO EVEN COMPREHEND AND THAT CAUSE I AM A MOM. I MEAN WHO REALLY DOES THAT JUST TO GET SOME GUY. C'MON. SHE DESERVES EVERYTHING SHE HAS COMING. SHE ALWAYS WANTS WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS AND USES WHAT SHE HAS TO GET THEM. SHE JUST WANTED TO KEEP JEN AND DANIEL APART AND REALLY THATS THE BOTTOM LINE ON THAT. THE WRITERS NEED TO MAKE NICOLE BETTER THAN SHE IS. |
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| WillFan | Nov 8 2012, 03:35 PM Post #13 |
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Days Preview 11-9-12. http://youtu.be/4I41Qfl-9JI John, Kristen, Nicole, Will, Gabi, Sonny, EJ, Brady. Tan, Jen, Rafe, Abby,Nicole, |
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| annie21 | Nov 8 2012, 03:35 PM Post #14 |
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^^ There's no need to SHOUT. |
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| NicoleLVR | Nov 8 2012, 03:43 PM Post #15 |
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You do know that when Nicole found out her baby was dead was the same day she fell down the stairs, right? So its not like she was walking around for weeks, waiting to stage the perfect opportunity to frame Jennifer. |
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| NicoleLVR | Nov 8 2012, 03:44 PM Post #16 |
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I love Nicole everybody else can go fuck themeselves, excuse my french. |
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| nolagirl | Nov 8 2012, 03:44 PM Post #17 |
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The writers are who made Nicole this way for this storyline, she didn't start this lie Rafe did, Dan offered to help, and as far as the dead baby have you ever lost a child or better yet given birth to a stillborn anyone would be in shock and grieving on the verge of a breakdown. Tom/Sell obviously can't/won't tell and accurate description of what she would have gone through so they sold this load of crap for Dannifer angst. Any Nicole fan wouldn't/didn't want her anywhere near the predator docotor of Salem but no Tomlin had to use her baby and KILL HIM for Dannifer. In the process they've lost quite a few viewer's that were hanging on by a thread. :soapbox: |
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| annie21 | Nov 8 2012, 03:51 PM Post #18 |
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TFP. I actually got through most of the DA today, and I could see that the theme for this episode was forgiveness: Kristen is sure John can't forgive her; Nicole is sure Daniel (and everyone else) won't forgive her; later Nicole tells Rafe she's sure that God is punishing her for her sins (unforgiving); Sonny is working through his hurt and starting to forgive Will; Brady apologizes to Jen and she instantly forgives him. Gabi might have had something to do with apologizing or forgiving, too, but frankly I couldn't get through her stuff. |
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| bomber | Nov 8 2012, 03:56 PM Post #19 |
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Nicole made the accusations against Jen the same day she found out the baby was dead and recanted the allegations a couple of days later. Are we really expected to believe she would be convicted under these circumstances? Are we expected to believe that a judge and jury would be convinced that she was acting rationally and not suffering from PPD or traumatic stress? This is a really crappy ploy to make us think jen is a saint when she decides not to press charges next week because she is just so wonderfully compassionate! How stupid does Tomlin think we are? |
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| nolagirl | Nov 8 2012, 03:59 PM Post #20 |
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Forgive me for thinking that Tomlin sucks (yes pun intended) :rockon: Edited by nolagirl, Nov 8 2012, 04:02 PM.
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